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boo:Yes, even pertaining to God… I fully acknowledge I may be wrong, and that there really is a God out there somewhere… the only difference is I don't care if there is, because it is my heartfelt belief that there isn't and until there is proof, I don't see one good reason why I should acknowledge it…
Just because you haven't looked for proof, doesn't mean that there is no proof.
boo:Show me your proof ji… I am curious to know what you will show me…Boo has asked me to show her the proof that God exists. I believe Allah is God, therefore, I will show you the proof that Allah exists. Like Oreo ji said,
serioComic:seek the truth u shall. find the answers u will.if you just look, you will find it.
Boo, I want you to know that no matter what happens, I will always love you and cherish the memories we had together. There are a lot of important things we disagree on, but I still love you and cannot forget all that you have done for me.
It is my duty to present to you the proof. If you choose to accept it, then Alhumdulillah(All praise is due to Allah), but if you choose to reject it, then there is nothing I can do about that.
“There shall be no compulsion in religion” (2:256 – Qur'an)
this proof is not just for boo, it's for everyone…
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Allah. The personal name of the one true God in Islam. Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender. From the 112th sura of the Qur’an: “In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Mohammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.”
“We will show them Our signs in all the regions of the earth and in their own souls, until they clearly see that this is the truth …” (Surah Fussilat, 41:53)
Allah's name formed by the clouds
Cactus forms the name of Allah
The branches of this tree forms out Allah.
Allah’s name written by the Bees
Allah’s name written by the Bees
Allah’s name appears on a bean
Allah’s name appears in a watermelon
Aerial view of a recent tsunami in Bandar Aceh, Indonesia. Only Mosque survived in this land.
Aerial view of a recent tsunami in Bandar Aceh, Indonesia. Only Mosque survived in this land.
A mosque still stands amidst the rubble of collapsed buildings in this aerial view of a neighborhood in the western Turkish town of Goluck, 60 miles east of Istanbul, August 19, 1999. The death toll from western Turkey's worst recorded earthquake surpassed 6,000, as hope waned of finding any of the thousands still missing under the mountains of rubble.
A rock in the Sajdah position. The position of Sajdah in which the forehead touches the ground is exclusively associated with the Muslim form of prayer.
This is a picture of a man in Sajdah. Compare with the picture of the stone in Sajdah, and see the similarities.
<img height="770" src="http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6155/allahontomanfishmu9.jpg"
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Wow 99, it's obvious that you painstakingly researched ur subject!
Your end result is beautifully done and ur faith is inspirational.
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Hey, sorry guys, I made a mistake. the following bit that I crossed out is wrong, that's why I crossed it out. I also crossed it out in the original post.
RaNi iS ThE BeS:As Khalifa makes it quite clear, verse [54: 2, 3] refers to the discovery of the mathematical
miracle and the great news it brought: The Qu’ran is the true word of God for the
mathematical code it contains is far beyond human capabilities and the Qu’ran should be the
ONLY source of religious law.Hadiths and Sunnah books have nothing to do with Islam;.
they are lies attributed to the Prophet and are in complete contradiction with the Qu’ranThe Hadith is definitely part of Islam. The Hadith are the sayings and practices of the last Prophet, Muhammad (may the peace and belssing of Allah be upon him). The hadith is also things the Prophet(S.A.W) approved of. It is called the Sunnah of the Prophet(S.A.W).
I hope I cleared that up. I'm sorry about the confusion, if you have any questions, ask away.
Thank you, Tayba ji, for pointing out the mistake.
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Tayba ji – Thank you.
And SubhanAllah, the signs really are everywhere. *Takbeer*Sugar –
Nessa ji – Thank you. I just felt I should provide boo with the proof.
Kavita – I'm glad you found it interesting.
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Your research is amazing Rani. There is really so much there that we turn a blind eye to, there is God's miracle in everybreath we take but we don't realise it.
It's interesting to see Faith and Facts going hand in hand- however, my personal opinion differs. Faith needs no facts.
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Yes dii, I agree with you, but we need to provide facts for the ones that don't have any faith in God, na? And that's all I was doing.
I love you, dii.
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~Khushi~:
Your research is amazing Rani. There is really so much there that we turn a blind eye to, there is God's miracle in everybreath we take but we don't realise it.
It's interesting to see Faith and Facts going hand in hand- however, my personal opinion differs. Faith needs no facts.
Hmm cudnt have said this better Kush…
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Marine:
You really posted something amazing wonderful work my compliments to you on your work and to your parents for having a doughter like you.
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Yemenilicious:
i don't know if you noticed but i added another 'er' to your awesomer =p
oh i didnt…bad eyes!
…wait that cant be right, i cahnged my glasses…
eh…
well..im awesomerer, sounds like a retard.
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Haylie(hayati): Yemenilicious:
i don't know if you noticed but i added another 'er' to your awesomer =p
oh i didnt…bad eyes!
…wait that cant be right, i cahnged my glasses…
eh…
well..im awesomerer, sounds like a retard.
LOL yeah you're awesomerer…
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Yemenilicious:
Then go study for the S A to the T to the U. they need to add a U there. to stand some cool word like. Unique. THE USAT! YEAH! OR HECK, UNITED V STAND.
okay ill go finish hw =)
lol
wt…
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Hayati and Ninja, please don't ruin this thread with your nonsense.
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Scar face:ranz hun, I havent been thru everything yet, but from what I have seen, its beautiful,
thought provoking and sums I truly needed to see at this time…
sooooo me wanna say thanks for keeping me on my toes ….
… Allah is always there when His creation needs Him.
I'm glad to have been a “messenger.” Yemenilicious:*high five* Rani ji. Subhana'Allah. Islam continues to amaze me..
There is no power and might except from the Almighty. Allahu AkbarIndeed.
*Takbeer* Haylie(hayati):Oh and Rani…you know theres a picture of moon split.you should have put that in there too..
Hayati, can you please put it up? Then I'll add it to the main post so that when someone else reads this thread, all of the information can be organized.
Marine:Rani i have never took time to look at this treat untill now. Wow this is amazing its true when they say signs are everywhere and god is everything in you case Allah is everything.
You really posted something amazing wonderfull work my compliments to you on your work and to your parents for having a doughter like you.
kavita_0026:agree with you marine … definitely compliments to rani's parents for having a little schweetoo like her !…umm…not really, but thank you.
and you too, Hayati !!! 
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The above is an actual x-ray of human lungs. You will notice the name of Allah, and Prophet Muhammed (s.a.w.) artistically designed in Arabic letters. “Gradually we will show them our teachings in various sections of the world and even in the way we created them, till they declare for the truth.” Holy Qur’an Chapter 23, verse 12 to 16
It says in Arabic, Laa 'ilaa-ha 'il-lal-laa-hu Mu-ham-ma-dur Ra-soo-lul-laah. It means there is none worthy of worship besides Allah; Muhammad (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) is the messenger of Allah.
Wow. Allahu Akbar…
I'm also going to add this to the original post…
Kavita- hanks hunn, good luck to u as well.
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Kavz hun, Totally agree with you !
Just reminded me of this bit from a song from the film 'Bombay'
Kal ka kyon sochein bhala hum
Aao aaj mein hi chalo jeelein zara hum
Upar waala jab ek hai sabka
Ek hoke phir ye gaale zara humGulla gulla hulla gulla
Gulla gulla hulla gulla
Jeena uska jeena jo jeene bhi de
Aayein hain duniya mein to iska maza bhi lele
Jeena uska jeena jo jeene bhi de
Aayein hain duniya mein to iska maza bhi lele
Deewano dilon mein to aao hum bhi rahein
Apne khuda ko chalo pyaar se hum tum manaayein
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Ninja – Indeed.
Kavita – I also believe there is only one God, but I call my God Allah, nothing else.
Khushi – Yeah, same thing I said to Kavita. lol.
I like those lyrics, very nice. diiiii! I lub you! Tayba ji – I don't remember, was it? If we were talking about lungs then I'm sure this is it. lol. But yeah, it's amazing, I love the fact that it's even inside of us…that's super cool. *nods*
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*Takbeer*
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RaNi iS ThE BeS:
Kavita – I also believe there is only one God, but I call my God Allah, nothing else.
Ranz – awesome answer – no problem Allah is your God – he is the [form of Lord in which you believe in!]
I honestly believe that different religions…really all the Gods are just ONE God – just as my religion [hinduism] having many forms
of the lord – its just ONE of them in separate places and times. Just as there is many interesting unbelievable things/clues about islam; there are unbelievable things from other religion like christianity and hinduism , etc.
To my belief all of them exist all of them are ONE.Why should there be wars about religions when we are all worshipping
the being we call GOD the being we bow to and pray to ? Why should we shed blood over a different believe that is SO MUCH ALIKE?Why? THe lord need to make the earth righteous – bless us with your righteousness dear lord! And cast away all EVILS!I have a question : Can a hindu be allowed [by the mosque] to go in the MOSQUE?
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naw in a way i feel as though … cud i be offending myself…lol
alright im HINDU & my prayers of course would enter into the abode of lord Krishna Lord Rama
i m just saying… other religions are also okay and people should NOT fight over an innocent similar belief
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Yemenilicious:
Yes, a hindu is allowed to enter the mosque.
Your belief that all Gods are one…I get kind of confused. So when you pray, your praying to all the Gods?! ALL OF THEM?
Interesting…Im curious to know. Is it significant to address to Whom you pray to? Praying to 'one' or 'several' shouldnt make a difference to actual value, quality, reality and purity of the prayer should it? Just a thought…
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~Khushi~: Yemenilicious:Yes, a hindu is allowed to enter the mosque.
Your belief that all Gods are one…I get kind of confused. So when you pray, your praying to all the Gods?! ALL OF THEM?
Interesting…Im curious to know. Is it significant to address to Whom you pray to? Praying to 'one' or 'several' shouldnt make a difference to actual value, quality, reality and purity of the prayer should it? Just a thought…
What is a prayer? “What's in a number? That which we call a prayer by any other number would be as divine”, huh?
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~Khushi~:Im curious to know. Is it significant to address to Whom you pray to? Praying to 'one' or 'several' shouldnt make a difference to actual value, quality, reality and purity of the prayer should it? Just a thought… What is a prayer?
Yes, it is significant to address to whom you pray to. When you make a prayer, it's like you're sending a letter to someone. Then that someone receives your letter and replies to it. In order to send the letter, you need an address. Without the address, you can't send your letter. In your prayer, the name you choose to call your God is like the address. You can't just be like “I pray to God,” Don't you think that it makes sense that if you do believe that there is ONE God, then you should just call Him by one Name? There is only One God, and He is the All – Merciful. Just because you don't accept Islam as your religion, does not mean that He does not accept your prayer. He accepts your prayer, but to know your God should be important to you, because you'd know who accepted your prayer (i.e received and replied to your letter).
Another thing, there is only ONE God, the fact that people give Him different names does not take anything away from his oneness. For example, if you are sending a letter to Ms. Smith, her husband calls her “honey” and her daughter calls her “mommy,” but you cannot write “honey” or “mommy” on the letter, you must write Ms. Smith because that is her name.
There is only one God, He has only one name, you just have to find it.
Prayer is submission to your Lord. When you pray, you surrender to your Lord. To remember, to worship, and to praise God is a prayer. A prayer is also when you ask something of your Lord. Then we have the daily 5 prayers that a Muslim offers to our Lord; Allah. It is called Salaah in Arabic. Salaah means to worship Allah in a specific and prescribed manner which includes specific verbal and physical actions.
Does that make sense, dii?
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Boo – I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand the article you posted up.
boo:Dear Rani,
Thank you.
A genuine “thank you” for all the time and effort you’ve put into producing this thread, the proof. It was interesting going through it all.
I know this is such a short reply, in comparison to all you’ve done, but I would like to be honest with you… I don’t know whether you expect me to respond to everything in detail or not… I feel a little bad for not responding in a little more detail, but I would like to keep my thoughts and ideas to myself at this stage… what you have done is so beautiful and commendable, that I do not really want to further this discussion any more, other than to just say “thank you”.
That doesn’t mean to say I don’t appreciate all the work you’ve done in getting the material sorted for this thread, or that it was not an interesting insight for me…
Goodness, I hope I am making some sense… it seems so clear in my head, and yet I can’t seem to type it out…
Just…
Thank you, Rani.
I love you……………………….x
Hey…you're welcome, hunnz.
It's okay if you want to keep your thoughts to yourself right now, I understand.
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Rani – I don't think I WILL post up any thoughts regarding your proof… in any case, most of my thoughts lead to a blank in my mind… like a “I need to think about this some more” kind of blank… 🙂
As for what Khushi said – there seems to be more of an interest in getting a 'spiritual' connection with God than a 'religious' connection – if you guys get what I mean? Not everywhere, not all the time, but more and more people seem to be going down this route? What do you guys think? What is it like where you live/in the community you are in?
Like, some people say “I don't have a religion, but I do believe there is a God within me, in my mind and soul. That is my God.”…
I am curious to know what you guys think – feedback please?
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~Khushi~: Yemenilicious:
Yes, a hindu is allowed to enter the mosque.
Your belief that all Gods are one…I get kind of confused. So when you pray, your praying to all the Gods?! ALL OF THEM?
Interesting…Im curious to know. Is it significant to address to Whom you pray to? Praying to 'one' or 'several' shouldnt make a difference to actual value, quality, reality and purity of the prayer should it? Just a thought…
What is a prayer? Khushi – hey hon, how are you? I dont know whether I confused yummin when I said what I said but seem like it brought forth some question on yr side. The thing is — of course we have our unique religion – definitely – Our Religion, Our GOD is respected – we use him as the SUBJECT of our prayer. We see HIM in everything. What I was referring to though was the fact that many people have Disagreements because of RELIGION. And we should ALL learn to ACCEPT other RELIGIONS to prevent diagreements and fights [Why would GOD want us to FIGHT over something HOLY? — Clearly, something must be wrong — but here mainly it is shown in the ignorance of some people]
I am not saying everyone should go a round believing in all of the 'exisiting Gods' b/c clearly people dont do this.
Its just a little congruent to my belief that is all. I am hindu and pray / believe in Hindu Gods but going into a Christian church [in fact i grew up in a christian society and studied the bible in school] is not something 'sinful' to me and i shouldnt feel condemned and doomed to sin because i have sat in with another wonderful group of people – who have strong belief in GOD. Same as going to a Mosque – but havent done this as yet, wish to do it soon to learn about these differnt religions.
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The only reason why we went off topic was because of the thread being locked.. Neway, lets leave it here. We are not here to discuss actions or why the thread was decided to be locked, for whatever reason.
Lets try and keep this thread from further disruptions, as it was an intellectually stimulating thread before all of this anyway.
Peace unto all
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boo:
[Sometimes the power of a few members feeling strongly about the forum they love amazes me.
It really does.
🙂]
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Quote:I don't see how this thread was SO off topic? We were discussing religion and I still see Kavita discussing it with your comment later . Why do you think it was off topic? Infact, this thread was made because of a discussion had earlier on in the forum which I assume you are not aware of. So regular members knew why Rani had created this thread and with what purpose. I don't think we went off topic so much so that the thread need closing. And plus, this is in the Say Something thread. So…..?
THANK YOU! That was EXACTLY what I wanted to say.
But anyhow, I agree with Khushi:
Quote:Lets try and keep this thread from further disruptions, as it was an intellectually stimulating thread before all of this anyway.Peace unto all
Quote:Rani – I don't think I WILL post up any thoughts regarding your proof… in any case, most of my thoughts lead to a blank in my mind… like a “I need to think about this some more” kind of blank… 🙂
…All right ji.
i love you. Quote:As for what Khushi said – there seems to be more of an interest in getting a 'spiritual' connection with God than a 'religious' connection – if you guys get what I mean? Not everywhere, not all the time, but more and more people seem to be going down this route? What do you guys think? What is it like where you live/in the community you are in?Like, some people say “I don't have a religion, but I do believe there is a God within me, in my mind and soul. That is my God.”…
I am curious to know what you guys think – feedback please?
I am also thinking the same thing, boo. It's like people want to get rid of religion or something. (something you would probably love, boo.
) But anyhow, a couple of my friends told me they would rather have a “spiritual” connection with God, rather than a religious one because they are tired of going to the Church everyday and reading the Bible and all. They do believe in God, but just don't like to worship Him in a religious way…
and that's not coming from me at all, I love my religion and wouldn't even dream of wanting to get rid of it. But that's what some of my friends say…
And about the article you posted, I have to be honest with you, I haven't even read your explanation as of yet, but I will soon Inshallah. I just have so many things on my mind right now, I can't really concentrate. sorry.
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I have somehting so cool to show you guys! I'm so excited! Inshallah, I'll post it up as soon as I can.
It's a bit long, tho…but very much WORTH the read.
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RaNi iS ThE BeS:
I have somehting so cool to show you guys! I'm so excited! Inshallah, I'll post it up as soon as I can.
It's a bit long, tho…but very much WORTH the read.
Hurry up and post it, lazy bum
I love you!
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I'm so sorry for the delay.
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well wud ya post it let us read it already
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I'm sorry, it won't let me post it up at school and I can't do it at home right now, but I promise I will post it up as soon as I can.
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I am of de patient…
take jur time hunnz.
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I am oh so sorry for the delay. Please forgive me. I was having some problems with it and then when I realized I could just post up a link to the website I felt like an idiot. lol.
All you guys have to do is scroll down and read it. It's very interesting and it won't take up too much time. You guys will probably be able to finish reading it in no time.
And make sure you don't click on the links first. Just read it in order:
Read it in order.
Enjoy!
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Walaykum Salaam, hunnz.
Yes, all of the information is from the book, Tayba. I brought a friend to the Mosque with me one day and she was very interested in Islam, so my teacher promised her she would give her a book that makes understanding Islam easy. So she asked me to pas.s it on to her. But it was so interesting, I couldn't resist it, so I read it all before I pas.sed it on. It only took me about an hour or so to read it, I made sure I finished it cuz I didn't want to be rude and not give it to the person my teacher asked me to give it to.
And so when my teacher sent the link to me via e-mail, I couldn't resist, I had to post it on the forum.
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What is this Kavita? You were so impatient to read it before, but now that it's all posted up, you say you'll read it later. *shakes head* tsk tsk tsk
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lol, kavita, ur funny.
Rani, you shud definitely watch this one video.
it's called “The Purpose of Life” by Khalid Yasin (pimpest of the pimps)
it's his all time famous lecture because afterwards, 22 ppl embraced islam right then and there.
masha'Allah. haylie and I watched it together a while back. it's amazing how he gets his points across…genius!in fact, i'll post the link here. It's kinda long, so whenever you get the chance, sit down and watch.
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Why Islam?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ
Baba Ali, explaining why he chose Islam. once again, im obsessed with this guy. I LOVE HIM.
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baba ali
brought back a lil memory…werz ranz and taybz??
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oooh oooh gotcha
Rani is lost
tayba is most probably busy..i donno
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ooooooook, lets leave other talk outside this thread….
Rani…did you listen to the rest of that joint?
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Maybe Rani is still caught up in the fun from her party
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Maybe Rani is still caught up in the fun from her party
she's not actually…she's busy with stuff going on currently.
Raniiii I love you oh oh oh
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Quote:Rani, you shud definitely watch this one video.
it's called “The Purpose of Life” by Khalid Yasin (pimpest of the pimps)
it's his all time famous lecture because afterwards, 22 ppl embraced islam right then and there.
masha'Allah. haylie and I watched it together a while back. it's amazing how he gets his points across…genius!I'm watching it right now.
My twin has a CD of a lecture from Khalid Yasin. It's also called “The Purpose of Life.” It's an amazing lecture. I loved it so much. I tried searching for it online so that I can post it up, but I can't find it.
I'll search some more, but if I still don't find it, I'll type it up, Inshallah.
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Miss Hayati haylie baylie bobblehead is gonna burn it for me
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I respect your opinion Senor
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lol!! but (In Islam) women are not allowed to marry than one man
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I finally got this joint uploaded! I've been trying for dayz. lol. No surprise… slow moments, hokay.
So here it is, not a lecture, but rather a beautiful reminder. What is the purpose of your life?:
part 1:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/K9-KNIBC/the_purpose_of_life_1/part 2:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/UanjruBU/the_purpose_of_life_2/part 3:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/rLGztJKW/the_purpose_of_life_3/part 4:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/MCmxtroG/the_purpose_of_life_4/part 5:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/m7pOiSdg/the_purpose_of_life_5/part 6 (final part):
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/UExCSS2j/the_purpose_of_life_6/and this lecture is by:
Shaykh Khalid Yasin, a former Christian, is the Executive Director of the Islamic Teaching Institute (ITI), an organization dedicated to the work of Da'wah. He has studied the Arabic language in Medina, Saudi Arabia and Cairo, Egypt and has had many mentors and teachers who tutored him in Islamic history and the memorization and recitation of the Qur'an.converted more than five thousand persons to Islam in the past 10 years…
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Wow. I missed out on a lot.
Quote:Surah Al-Mu'minun, Ayah # 62: On no soul do We (ALLAH S.W.T) place a burden greater than it can bear: before Us (ALLAH S.W.T) is a record which clearly shows the truth: they will never be wronged.-there you go beautiful Rani. Sorry, I can't call.
Jazakallahu Khayran, Habeebi. I really love this verse from the Qur'an, I would have looked for it myself, but Hayati has my translated Qur'an, and I was too lazy to look online.
Quote:Seriously now, one woman is more than enough for a man. Why would anyone want to marry four?…Ha…Ha…Haha!…
Quote:'Obey me. Do what I say and I will be your God and you will be my people. Live the way I tell you. Do what I command so that your lives will go well.' (The Message)'Obey me, and I will be your God and you will be my people. Walk in all the ways I command you, that it may go well with you.' (New International Version)
'Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.' (King James Version)
I'm sorry if I seem ignorant, but what exactly is this from?
Quote:the problem with people is that one, they dont truly understand what is said in the Quran and two, others make wrong assumptions abt this ruling and is quick to condemned it before looking at the actual reasons on why this ruling was made in the first place.Mashallah, Oreo ji, very well said.
May Allah (SWT) reward you well. Ameen.
Quote:Cosmic, no disrespect to what is stated in the QURAN, to the teachings of Islam, this isn’t a misunderstanding or assumption as such , Your points are noted, understood and respected for what had been ..ie the past, the days our forefathers ruled.However, I am talking about this day and age,The Qur'an was sent down for ALL GENERATIONS.
Quote:This is still being widely practiced for the simple fact that it is stated in the Holy Book??
The Qur'an does not force men to marry up to 4 wives. It is simply an option for the various reasons Serio pointed out.
Quote:So here it is, not a lecture, but rather a beautiful reminder. What is the purpose of your life?:part 1:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/K9-KNIBC/the_purpose_of_life_1/part 2:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/UanjruBU/the_purpose_of_life_2/part 3:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/rLGztJKW/the_purpose_of_life_3/part 4:
http://profile.imeem.com/SQfzyB/music/MCmxtroG/the_purpose_of_life_4/part 5:
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hey if any of you tries to listen to the lecture and is asked to log on, if you don't have an imeem account, simply close the window that pops up
Rani- you're welcome hunnz.
Serio- I really really like how you explained it. couldn't have said it better. May Allah reward you indeed. Mashallah
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I'm sorry if I seem ignorant, but what exactly is this from?
Rani ji, its a verse from the Holy Bible (Jeremiah 7.23). Alie had asked for it.
Why are there so many different versions? So if I look in any random Bible, will I find those same exact verses? And who exactly is Jeremiah?
Ninja- read the totally random thread.
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wait senor ji..you can follow them all? they're similar? I wanted to ask too, you believe in the Trinity? explain it to us pls?
Rani- i read, and…I see you tomorrow right?
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Senor- Thank you. And I have the same question as Ninja. I don't understand the Trinity…how one person can be a 3-in-1…please explain?
Ninja- Yes, you'll see me today, but at the Mosque…
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Rani…I saw Appa z for the first time in like a yr. Really made my day, Alhamdulillah. I love the lecture she had today, it was awesome. I'm like reading all about Nabi (S.A.W)'s character now. Subhana'Allah
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Our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was an intelligent man with exemplary character. He shook the foundation of this world with such grace and charisma. He was an illiterate man who led a lost nation into the light of Islam and he inspired everyone he met. Even the Kings from other kingdoms wanted to be like him because he was such a great leader and his followers wouldn’t hesitate in giving their lives for a cause he thought was just. They went to such extents that they would wear, instead of their usual elegant garments, tattered clothes and rags to imitate him, because they couldn’t distinguish who was the leader and who were his followers because they were all dressed in the same manner. They even do so today. There was a non-Muslim author who ranked him as number one as the most influential man in history. This was my Prophet’s character, this was the effect he stamped on every life he touched. This was the greatest man to have ever walked this Earth.
I imagine this…awwwwwww!:
-He was also an extremely loving man. When his grandsons would climb on his back while he was in Sajdah, he would leave them up there and stay n Sajdah until they came off.
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man that brought tears to my eyes. Reading about our Beloved Prophet S.A.W always makes me teary with awe at such a wonderful person he was. Reading about his Peace Be Upon Him's death made me cry… he did so much for this ummah… makes me feel ashamed at what is happening today.. but even still there is always guidance for us and we're still the greatest ummah. Alhumdulilah
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Quote:This was my Prophet’s character, this was the effect he stamped on every life he touched. This was the greatest man to have ever walked this Earth.
Subhan'Allah…Every time I hear about the life of the Nabi (may the peace of Allah (SWT) be upon him) I am always left with awe and deep admiration.
Quote:-He was also an extremely loving man. When his grandsons would climb on his back while he was in Sajdah, he would leave them up there and stay n Sajdah until they came off.Subhan'Allah…I remember when Appa was telling us how he would stay in sajdah forever, it brought tears to my eyes…Allahu Akbar…
Quote:but even still there is always guidance for us and we're still the greatest ummah. Alhumdulilah.Alhamdulillah, that is so true. Appa Z was telling us yesterday that we are indeed the greatest ummah because we do the work of the prophets, it is our responsibility to spread the truth…Subhan'Allah…
~ Allahu Akbar ~
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you see why he's my hero! Salla Allahu A'laihi wasallam.
In contrast to others who have achieved renown for their accomplishments in a limited sphere of activity, Muhammad's achievements span all major areas of life. The historian Michael H. Hart wrote:
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.
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…yeah Tayba, it's pretty interesting
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Ninja – I don't think I've seen the video, I'll watch it as soon as I have some peace and quiet in this chaotic house.
I want to pass on an email my teacher sent me:
GOOD NEWS FOR MUSLIM BROTHERS,
Assalamualaikum…! An important message to all Muslim brothers and sisters : Sunita Williams ( First Indian woman who went on moon) accepted “ISLAM” Masha Allah, bcoz when they were on the moon, they saw towards EARTH, the entire EARTH looked dark, but 2 places on the EARTH looked like SPARKS (Roshni). They were shocked to see that and saw them with the help of telescope and came to know that those two places were ” MECCA” and “MADINA” Masha Allah. Then they decided that after reaching to earth they'll accept “ISLAM”. Thats y they reached safely. So be proud to a muslim and forward it to all like fire. Allah Hafiz…!
I don't know what this says… I think it's in Urdu though…but it could also be Arabic…If it's Arabic, maybe ninja can translate it, if it's Urdu, then she can read it to me over the phone and I can translate it, Insha'Allah. 
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Kavita – Ramadhan lasts from 30 to 31 days.
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Rani- it never lasts 31 days. its 29 or 30 days.
and i got that email too! Subhana'Allah!!!
There is this guy my dad knows…he wants to convert Insha'Allah.
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welcomez
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Kavita – yepperz. Eid is gonna be this Saturday! I'm so upet that Ramadhan is almost over, but I'm so happy that Eid is coming up!
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in answer to your first question: We celebrate eid 2 times each year. The first time is after Ramadan…celebrating the end of the Holy Month and as a “reward” for fasting. We visit relatives, we have parties, we EAT A LOT =P. haha, everyone celebrates it their own way…but everyone must go to Eid Salaah at the masjid following the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (Muhammad peace be upon him's way of life). And the second time is when Muslims from over the world go to Makkah for pilgrimage.
Second question: the moon determines everything. the moon determines when we begin Ramadan and it determines when Eid is gonna be. Because the Islamic Calendar follows the moon.
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I came across this beautiful Hadith today
:On the authority of Abu al-'Abbaas Sahl bin Sa'ad as-Saa'idee (radiAllaahu anhu) who said :
A man came to the Prophet (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and said : O Messenger of Allaah, direct me to an act which, if I do it, [will cause] Allaah to love me and the people to love me. So he (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said : Renounce the world and Allaah will love you, and renounce what the people possess and the people will love you.
A Hasan hadeeth related by Ibn Maajah and others with good chains of authorities.
Explanation of Hadeeth:
Know that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) used to encourage his Companions upon making do with little from worldly possessions and upon abstemiousness, and said : “Remain in the World as though you are a stranger, or a passing traveller.” And it has been narrated that he (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said : “Love of the Dunyaa (Worldly pleasures) is the head of all sins” [However, this narration is traceable back only to al-Hasan al-Basree, and not to the Prophet sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam]. And in another hadeeth : “Verily the ascetic in this life finds his heart contented in this world and in the Hereafter, while the seeker of the Dunyaa finds his heart weary in this world and in the Hereafter”.And know that whosoever lives in the world lives like a guest, and whatever he holds in his hand is but a loan; the guest will ultimately depart, and the loan will ultimately be returned. And 'Alee (radiAllaahu anhu) said : “The Dunyaa is the land that you see before you – from it eat the pious and the evil ones”, and it is hated by the Awliyaa (Friends) of Allaah and loved by the People of the Dunyaa. So whosoever joins them in their love of it (the Dunyaa) then they too are hated.
And the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) has guided the questioner in this hadeeth to leave the Dunyaa by being abstemious of it, and as a consequence of that has promised for him the Love of Allaah, the Most High – and that is His being Pleased with him, for verily the Love of Allaah for His slaves is His being Pleased with them. And he (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) also guided him towards being abstemious of that which the people possess, if he wishes to obtain the love of the people. And wealth is from love of the Dunyaa, and verily there is nothing that the people possess and they hate one another because of it or compete with one another for it, except the wealth of the Dunyaa.
And he (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said : “Whoever makes the Hereafter his pre-occupation, then Allaah gathers together his affairs, and places freedom from want in his heart, and the Dunyaa comes to him despite being reluctant to do so. And whoever makes the Dunyaa his pre-occupation, then Allaah breaks up his affairs, and places his poverty before his eyes, and nothing of the Dunyaa comes to him except that which has been decreed for him. And the happy one is he who chooses that whose blessings will remain forever over the trial whose punishments shall never cease”.
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We need to revive this thread.
I miss this thread. I need to post more stuff on here. I keep forgetting.
Ninja –
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We need to revive this thread.
I miss this thread. I need to post more stuff on here. I keep forgetting.
Ninja –
Quote:And the happy one is he who chooses that whose blessings will remain forever over the trial whose punishments shall never cease”. I love this thread tooooooooo!
I know, isn't that beautiful.
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Ninja, thank you for posting this up.
I love Imam Siraj Wahhaj! I love the way he gives his talks, they're very powerful. Masha'Allah.
Quote:Islam Promotes Tolerance Not Terrorism
Imam Siraj Wahhaj
a Khutbah given in Sydney, AustraliaBrothers and sisters, I pray to Allah, the Almighty that tonight Allah will bless me to articulate what I feel in here (pointing to his heart). I ask Allah to bring what’s in here (heart) so that I may articulate with my tongue and help every one of us. If we are Muslim, a Muslim scholar (‘aalim), haafith Quran (who have memorised the entire Quran), the muttaqeen (those who fear Allah) – I pray to Allah that you will get closer to Allah. I pray to Allah that those Muslims who are weak in faith, some of you barely holding on, some of my sisters struggling to be a good Muslim but weak, some of my brothers struggling to be a good Muslim but weak, I pray to Allah that you will be stronger tonight and will get closer to Allah. Those of you who are not Muslim in the audience, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and even atheists I pray tonight that Allah guides you to His truth.
Tonight I want to talk about you, all of you… and all of us, 1 billion 500 million Muslims around the world. A third of them (500 million Muslims) left Muslim countries, scattered throughout the world. Where are they? They are in America, 9 million Muslims in the United States of America. They are in the United Kingdom. Muslims… in Germany, France, India. Where are they? Four hundred thousand Muslims in Australia. I want to talk about you and our role in this country, in this city of Sydney and in Melbourne and in Perth. Why are we here? One third of the ummah in minority countries. Migration to non-Muslim countries.Why are you here in Sydney? Why are we in Australia? What are we doing? What do the people think about us? The Australians, the Aborigines, what do they think about us? What goes through their minds when they hear Muslims, when they hear Islam, when they hear Quran, when they hear Sunnah? What do they think about us? Some of you might say “so what!” You don’t care what they think about us! If you are Muslim, you care what people think about you. Because in effect everything, and you better know every time you walk down the street and somebody sees you as a Muslim they are thinking about something. What are they thinking about?
When I was a little boy in school, sometimes I would go home from school and maybe somebody in school laughed at me, made a mockery of me. Like most little children who run home they tell their mother, they tell their father. I'll never forget what my mother told me. She said son, say this: “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me”. You know, sometimes children can be real cruel, they laugh at you because your skin is black, because your skin is white, because you’re a little bit heavy, because you’re skinny, because you have a beard, because you’re young, because you dress differently, because you wear a kufi, because you wear hijab, because you wear long dress, people are cruel. My mother did not have to tell me son don’t worry about that, don’t worry about what people say, words don’t harm, but my mother was wrong. Words do harm you! Sometimes a true word is more harmful. How many of you brothers are not married? Raise your hands. You think words mean anything? If you want to get married and that woman hears a bad word about you and she doesn’t want to marry you because of what she heard, you don’t think words mean anything? You want to get a job and they won’t give you a job because of what th
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In that valley, the lover wanders,
And he sees the wandering to be a great attainment.
And from Allah is the joy of the lovers when
He addresses them from above and greets them with Salam.
Neither shall darkness cover their sight nor shall they tire.So O what a glance which gives a brightness to the face,
Can the enthralled lover ever forget after that?
And by Allah, how many fair (maidens), if one were to smile,
She would radiate light brighter than the break of dawn.
So how great is the enjoyment of the ears when she speaks.And O what timidness like a soft branch when she leans near,
And O what bashfulness when she smiles.
An excerpt from, “A description of Paradise” from Imam Ibn-Al Qayyam. Translated by: Abdul Rafee’ Adewale Imam. This specific part speaks about the lovers in paradise.
awwwwwwww! Subhan'Allah…
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al-Ikhlâs – The Purity
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only!
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.
– translation by Abdullah Yusuf AliAl-Ikhlâs is sûrah (chapter) 112 of the Qur'ân, and is said to be one of the earliest revelations that the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) received from archangel Gabriel.
The Arabic root of the word ikhlâs is kh-l-s which means to be purified or refined. The very concept of refining and purifying signifies the burning away of all impurities, leaving nothing but the very essence of that which was sought, which, in this case, is Allah.
Such a purification is the burning away of all of the worldly misunderstandings, concerns and desires that separate us from the One; the One and Only upon whom we depend, the One and Only who is our foundation rock, the Eternal One and Only.
As a further testimony to the unity of the One who has created all of mankind, note the striking similarity in the Bhagavad-Gita written in India a thousand years earlier:
You are the One Creator of all the worlds,
and of that which moves and that which does not move,
You alone are fit for worship, You are the highest Teacher,
In all the worlds there is none equal to You.
– Bhagavad-Gita 11:43
A deeper look into al-Ikhlâs:
The following is al-Ikhlâs, line-by-line in Arabic, followed by a simple transliteration, and four well-known English translations.
(Pronunciation guide: i as in sit, a as in bat, u as in put, â as the a in father, î as the ee in reel, û as the oo in moot.)
bismillâh ir-rahmân ir-rahîm
Yusuf Ali: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Pickthall: In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
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My twin asked me to talk to his friend about Islam a while ago. And about a week ago he told me he was interested in embracing Islam but he thinks he's gonna get lazy and not pray 5 times a day and doesn't know if he can stop eating meat. I told him not to let that stop him and that Muslims are allowed to eat meat, the animal just has to be slaughtered in a way so that it doesn't suffer. He's living in Mexico right now and he doesn't know any Muslims there. I wish he still lived here because my brother could have just taken him to the Mosque over here. But Insha'Allah, Allah will guide him to the truth. Ameen.
Please do keep him in your duas.
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Waluscha! HI!
Quote:So then, I decided if I couldn't find the answers within the churches and the temples, I had to look somewhere else and I asked my friend if he could bring me to the masjid.awww.
Insha'Allah (If Allah wills), you will find the answers. Quote:I thought he would refuse for I thought non-Muslims are not allowed in masjidNon-Muslims are allowed in the Mosques.
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Hey guys! Some of you might know me and some might not. I believe it has been a very long time since I last posted here. Uhmm, perhaps more than a year or ALMOST.
Some people here might know I was born with no religion. Well, my dad is a Hindu and my mum is a Christian. When I was 10, I was told by them to find my own religion but I didn't bother as I always believed, whatever I am, God is within me. But, that was about to change when I broke up with my fiance. So, yeah. I went into a deep depression and I just didn't know what to do with my life. All days long I would spend my time shedding tears and thinking that I just wanted to die. Even my parents didn't know what they could do to help me. I even thought of committing suicide but someone changed my thought and my life…maybe for the rest of my life. I used to visit churches and temples near my house to pray so that I would be stronger in facing coming days but I never went to the mosques. Then, one day, I met this guy at one of the churches. Yes, he was a priest!
Anyway…when I asked him whether Christian is the right religion and if so, why still I didn't get the peace I wanted, the priest questioned me back with several questions which make me find myself and I want to believe God sends him to me to save me.
Here are the questions he asked me…
'You were born with the religion you are now following but why are you following it? Is it because it's the only religion you know of so much, as it's so close to home? Or did you do research (educate) into it? And even whilst learning about it, did you question it? Did you believe in the answers you got were satisfactory? Did they justify what was being said?'
He told me he won't give me the answers for he doesn't have one but he really wanted me to think of em and he wanted me to come to a conclusion of my own of what I find is the best for me. So then, I decided if I couldn't find the answers within the churches and the temples, I had to look somewhere else and I asked my friend if he could bring me to the masjid. I thought he would refuse for I thought non-Muslims are not allowed in masjid…but he brought me…and slowly, I learned and…I'm still learning. But yeah, I feel much calmer and stronger nowadays for I know what my belief is…what I'm holding on to.
walu hun
can relate to yr words and wat u have been thru…
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=sbcmPe0z3Sc
Hayati – Thanks for showing me this video. It's absolutely beautiful! I love it!
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I just came to know about some one who, after agreeing with his wife to leave, went back to his home country to marry a 16 year old girl (I think she's 16 … she's somewhere around that age) and then got her pregnant before leaving her to return back to his current place of living with his other ('initial' wife). This person is Muslim and he's like late 40's or somewhere around there… He has children I believe.
Im not sure… is there anything in the Islamic scriptures that validate such … action? I think we touchedon this topic and you guys said, the scriptures said men can do that ONLY if they can give BOTH wives EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS. (and this is 100% IMPOSSIBLE – we all know that! First of all, if you're being shared, how on earth can you give yourself fully to 2 wives?)
So..Im not sure, Im not sure if its apart of some African culture (depending on how he was grown up) or because its something to do with his culture of being a Muslim.
Im not offending anyone here but… this story just makes me want to throw up.
Because seriously, this is sick.
Hey Kavita ji…
According to my own experience with others, I believe that a man is capable of treating his wives equally, I'll tell you why. But before that, I would like to say that I don't think this man you're speaking about is being 'fair' in a sense. Because he isn't appreciating the right of his other wife to know, that is, from what I understand… he didn't tell her. Even though Islam doesn't have it as a condition for any of the wives to know that the husband has decided to go off and get hitched again. However, the teachings and character of Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him teach us to be kind and honest.
Now regarding justice between the wives, a man is fully capable of achieving it if he really does know Islam. He is not asked by Islam to love them both/all equally. Cos, it aint possible! lol. however, he is not to show them this. We're speaking of fairness of making them feel that they all mean the same. So if he gives one a car, he has to give the other a car. If he buys one a necklace, he has to buy the other a necklace. you know? That is exactly why Islam lays the condition of being mentally and financially ABLE. If they're not, then forget getting married again man, they aint qualified!
(Sadly, a lot of Muslim men take that condition as some kind of joke…
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On this same topic, I'd like to add something.
Not all muslim men are like that thought Kavi. I know of someone, he's young 28 years of age. 5 years ago, his wife and college sweetheart, passed away. Now he loved her, I knew them both – family/friends. But 2years ago, another woman came into his life and she loves him incredibly. She knew of his past and everything, but her determination was so ardent – he had to give in to her love. They are a happily married couple now, he seems to smile and be happy a lot more now – and InshAllah, she's expecting a baby soon
He still celebrates his and his late wive's anniversary and birthday. It does make me think though, does he love them both? Or is he being partial? I'm not that close to him to ask him this, but if I ever did, I would love to know. I'm not a Muslim, so I'm not sure of the exact rules… any light shed here?
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Hey Khushi ..
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Not all muslim men are like that thought Kavi. *chuckles* I know! I never said all Muslim men are like that … I just remembered us talking about this same topic in this thread… and since I came to know of this man I m talking about… I had to ask about the situation here. I felt… I would get some answers and a better understanding.
I know of someone, he's young 28 years of age. 5 years ago, his wife and college sweetheart, passed away. Oh no..Im sorry
I dont know how peple can live after their loved ones pass away Now he loved her, I knew them both – family/friends. But 2years ago, another woman came into his life and she loves him incredibly. She knew of his past and everything, but her determination was so ardent – he had to give in to her love. They are a happily married couple now, he seems to smile and be happy a lot more now – and InshAllah, she's expecting a baby soon He still celebrates his and his late wive's anniversary and birthday. Aww … how touching is this! It does make me think though, does he love them both? Or is he being partial? I'm not that close to him to ask him this, but if I ever did, I would love to know. I'm not a Muslim, so I'm not sure of the exact rules… any light shed here?
Very interesting case here. But its really different. I mean, if his late wife was alive, he would not be anywhere else! With another person! So I dont consider this as being like he has two ..wives… although I know what you're saying..since he still celebrates her. Aw man, that is so sad
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Hey Kavita ji…
According to my own experience with others, I believe that a man is capable of treating his wives equally, I'll tell you why. But before that, I would like to say that I don't think this man you're speaking about is being 'fair' in a sense. Because he isn't appreciating the right of his other wife to know, that is, from what I understand… he didn't tell her. Yes, he did tell his wife, she knows all about it and apparently its okay for her husband to go back to his hometown in Africa and marry another girl. Even though Islam doesn't have it as a condition for any of the wives to know that the husband has decided to go off and get hitched again. So, you're trying to tell me its alright for husbands to just go get married to more than one woman/girl without telling his current wife anything? However, the teachings and character of Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him teach us to be kind and honest.
Now regarding justice between the wives, a man is fully capable of achieving it if he really does know Islam. He is not asked by Islam to love them both/all equally. Cos, it aint possible! lol. If its not possible then why would he even TRY to do it? [Unless men get married with an intention of NOT loving his wife/wives and NOT being honest and loyal] I never knew of marriage not having to do with loving to the fullest or trusting to the fullest and being loyal to the fullest.
However, he is not to show them this. So, you say that the men have to be honest (if they want to follow goodness) but then you say they are not to show their wives the truth? We're speaking of fairness of making them feel that they all mean the same. How can they all mean the same? That is impossible. They are all different people with different names, personalities, likes, dislikes, ideas, thoughts, feelings, minds, actions, reactions, etc. How then, can one man really make a couple of wives, feel exactly the same?? He cant do that. So if he gives one a car, he has to give the other a car. If he buys one a necklace, he has to buy the other a necklace. you know? No, Im not sure I know. Becuase marriage isnt about giving material stuff. Nothing should be about material stuff – at least, not to a great extent. Material stuff die away with time. Marriage is supposed to be about support, and working together even when times are hard and if you are poor down to the ground, you should be able to find some worth (without having material stuff – as in nice necklaces or nice cars – you'd just have to live off of food and shelter). There will be no material stuff to share if you're poor to the ground. So what then will you share? That is exactly why Islam lays the condition of being mentally and financially ABLE. If they're not, then forget getting married again man, they aint qualified!
And about this almost -50- year old man … marrying a 16 (or somewhere around there) year old girl – what on earth? First of all, dude, couldnt you find a woman your age? Second of all, what on earth? You gonna go get married to her, stay a month and then come back to USA?Ninja, I will leave you with two questions. Do you want to be ONE of your husband's wives? Or do you want to be his wife? I mean, are you alright with your future husband having two wives? Providing that he can, as you mentioned, give you both the same material stuff – car, necklace, etc. ?
(Sadly, a lot of Muslim men take that condition as some kind of joke…) That same question goes for you too Khushi, and to whoever com
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fves and kids who lost their husbands and fathers to war or sickness or whatever it is, hv no one to turn to.Are you kidding me?!?!?!
Quote:fast forward to the 21st century…and we have men who abused this so called 'privilege' and basically take it as 'i can marry more than 1, no questions asked'. women who are ignorant of the conditions stupidly agrees to the husbands demands and the husband who thinks GOD gave him this power without any restrictions stupidly walk himself into hell.even if the wifey is oblivious to the conditions, THEY NEVER EVER agree Oreo. Never. my mom threatens to choke my dad if he ever thinks of getting married again. LOL!
And yeah, men do walk themselves into hell. Why? cos dey stupid! ESTUPIDO!
Who wants to get married again for no reason and then have to deal with all that responsibility and headache! bumfaces!
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since when u took over boogedy's role? shesssshhhh!! its bad enough theres 1 'teacher' in here who scrutinizes every single word, now u are doing it too?
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Quote:since when u took over boogedy's role? shesssshhhh!! its bad enough theres 1 'teacher' in here who scrutinizes every single word, now u are doing it too?
I usually don't. That one bugged me though.
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Seriously!
double triple seriously, coz man, Rani and I seriously have lives…. like forealz
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So use the second one to have children, but not give her love because presumably you can only love one person at a point in time. So the second wifes feelings don't matter much, shes just a baby making machine?
i didnt say u can only love one at a time. men and women…we are different. more so when it comes to feelings. dont hate the player, hate the game 😉
Wahahaa! Oh Oreo, J'ai adore! Lol, Don't hate the player, Hate the game – but that's where you assume love a game. And that's where you go wrong. If issues such as these were a game, I don't think any wise individual would play it
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double triple seriously, coz man, Rani and I seriously have lives…. like forealz
Hey guys come on…! Rani did start the thread and is adding to it. Ofcourse you'll get queries! There are nicer ways of asking people to read the whole thing. And, no one is obliged to reply to it if they don't want to. No one is losing anything here…! Equal right to question on a public forum
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Khushi dii, you are right. I am sorry. Please forgive me?
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When I see that I am wrong, it doesn't take much for me to accept it and say I'm sorry.
I love you and thank you. 
Ok, let's leave it at that? This thread is for questions and more proofs only, don't want to fill it up with talk.
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Quote:as of this point, you do -mind- if your husband has more that you to call his wife? What makes the change? I guess…you gettting older would bring along more understanding?
Well, I guess when I'm married, and I experience the feeling, then it'll be harder to accept when my husband wants to remarry. I don't have a clear picture at the moment. It's a natural thing for every woman to disapprove. When you love a guy, you obviously want him all to yourself.
Quote:As for the women outnumbering the men, yes I have heard this – just to clarify – this is the only reason why Allah made it like this – for one man to have more than one wife?No, that's not the only reason. There are other reasons too. Before Islam came, for example, men were allowed to marry as many women as they liked. They followed no rules, thus they didn't even have to look after them and support them. So Islam came to limit the number and set the laws and conditions.
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Quote:Quote:as of this point, you do -mind- if your husband has more that you to call his wife? What makes the change? I guess…you gettting older would bring along more understanding?
Well, I guess when I'm married, and I experience the feeling, then it'll be harder to accept when my husband wants to remarry. I don't have a clear picture at the moment. It's a natural thing for every woman to disapprove. When you love a guy, you obviously want him all to yourself.
But every woman who get married, they will have this same feeling
Would it be fair to them? And their children? Would their children feel comfortable having Mom # 2? How would you feel if your dad got another wife? Would it be alright with you?Quote:As for the women outnumbering the men, yes I have heard this – just to clarify – this is the only reason why Allah made it like this – for one man to have more than one wife?No, that's not the only reason. There are other reasons too. Before Islam came, for example, men were allowed to marry as many women as they liked. They followed no rules, thus they didn't even have to look after them and support them. So Islam came to limit the number and set the laws and conditions.
Oh, I see I see …
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Quote:Would it be fair to them? And their children? Would their children feel comfortable having Mom # 2? How would you feel if your dad got another wife? Would it be alright with you?
Well see, of course women don't like it, but if the guy is willing to be fair, then i dont think it's unjust. And there are many children who live a happy life having a 'mom # 2'. As long as their daddy is not being a jerk and is treating them all equally.
There was a point where my dad spoke about getting married. lol. And just after we heard him say that, my siblings and I started planning how to 'jump' the new wife, how we're gonna beat her up and make her regret the day she agreed to marry our dad. lmbo. But he was just joking. um, I don't feel it's alright, but you never know, everything happens for the best!
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Quote:However, today we live in a society of complete hypocrisy and media percieved ideologies. You say “yes” to having mistresses and fun with multiple girlfriends but you reject Islam when it is saying, “Marry women but deal justly with them, give them rights, protect them and clothe them with love.” In relationships outside of marriage we find children who have no fixed father but Islam is saying, “Maintain a family and a house of love.”
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, I love Islam! *heart melts* lol.
Quote:He told the Muslims: “Fear Allah in respect of women.” And: “The best of you are they who behave best to their wives.” And: “A Muslim must not hate his wife, if he is displeased with one bad quality in her, let him be pleased with one that is good.” And:“The more civil and kind a Muslim is to his wife, the more perfect in faith he is.”Salla Allahu A'laihi wasallam! Ya habeebi, Ya Rasulallah!
Tabz – This was perfect.
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Quote:However, today we live in a society of complete hypocrisy and media percieved ideologies. You say “yes” to having mistresses and fun with multiple girlfriends but you reject Islam when it is saying, “Marry women but deal justly with them, give them rights, protect them and clothe them with love.” In relationships outside of marriage we find children who have no fixed father but Islam is saying, “Maintain a family and a house of love.”
And without doubt there is a type of woman who does not mind sharing her husband and there is definitley a man out there who does not mind taking on an extra responsibility. Do not be bought into all of these media perceptions of Islam, there is nothing in this beautiful religion which goes against the essence of humanity as a whole.
Masha'Allah! This was very well written! Allahuma zid fa zid.
Ninja – I agree with you 100%!
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Just wanted to correct some things here…
if you look in to the bible for example, there are chapters which show that Abraham committed incest with his own daughters in the cave of a mountain. that they made him drunk and then bore his children. likewise we find in another chapter that solomon had 99 wives. then in another chapter we find that prostitution is found.
This is incorrect. This happend to his cousin/nephew Lot. Upon fleeing Sodom, his wife was turned into a pillar of salt. The daughters' husbands would not flee and were destroyed. They asked their father to 'help' them. He refused because it was unthinkable to him. They then got him drunk.
Solomon (son of King David) had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
I'm not sure what is being argued here ladies.
What it comes down to is the intent of the man and the agreement of the woman/women! Who among us has the ability to read minds?
The thing about religion is that it's followers are imperfect humans. What one's holy book may read is not always followed, even by the most well wishing of individuals. Most religions have sects, divisions, misinterpretations (intentional and unintentional)!
Ultimately God Himself will decide and that is where our faith & works will speak for themselves.
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In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Very Merciful.
You have made some very good points and asked many good questions, here is my reply:
Question : Do you think many men out there are fit or able to marry many women and provide equally for them? Giving the same-equal amount of basically everything he has [including himself]?
Of course there is, however do not forget that it is a stipulation and condition of marriage that the man can only marry a second time if he has enough wealth. there is a type of man who is God-fearing but society as it is portrays all men to be pigs. this is not the case, there are lots of good men who can maintain a wife.
Technically how can he share himself equally with many wives? How can you even share time and leisure equally? I feel sort of wrong to keep asking these questions … dont ever take me wrong … my intention is NEVER to upset anyone.
Ness is right …. who are we to question … I mean, the parties who are going into this … must have agreed and must have been real happy to go forth with it. I just wanted to understand it from you guys point of view though.
lastly u mentioned, I have a question : I really doubt this, especially since you just quoted the above but… Is it alright for a muslim man to abuse[beat] his wife if she does something he doesnt like?
No, it is completely wrong for a man to beat his wife, it is the perfection of faith to be kind to ones wife. Infact, the Prophet (May peace and blessings be upon him) rebuked those who did hit their wives
I cant remember where I heard this but, I heard that its okay for Muslim men to beat their wives as long as they break no bones. I just wanted to clarify —- do you know anything of this? Or the source of my information is totally wrong?
i have above mentioned somethings about Christianity. No offence has been intended, rather a just comparative analysis on scriptures. Forgive me if i have created any bitter feelings as it was not my intention.
No offense taken Tayaba… and no offense intended from me. Thank you for attending to my questions
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Yes yes, I know I know Ness … it really does boil down to the parties who must commit. I mean, they are the ones who are putting themselves into something … so obviously they must be ready/wanting/accepting it.
I just wanted to understand it from another point of view though. I really hope that my topic hasnt offended anyone, because I have no intention of offending anyone. I realize this is a sensitive topic … and if anyone wants it to be closed … dont be afraid to tell me.
Not to sound short Kava Daba, but you have several differing points of view in this thread of 16 pgs.. If you don't understand it by now, then chances are, you won't. *shrugs*
It's what Catholics call 'a mystery' as they look up at the ceiling. lmbo
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all i have to say is that i am up for extra partner in the marriage. he can always bring another men in to our marriage. i won't mind.
WHAT?! … oooooooook.
So, as long as he gives you the permission to bring another man in your marriage, then you don't mind?
What if your husband refuses, but wants another lady in the marriage?
Ninja, that's just Marine being…well errrr…Marine! lmbo
Pay no mind!
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Yes yes, I know I know Ness … it really does boil down to the parties who must commit. I mean, they are the ones who are putting themselves into something … so obviously they must be ready/wanting/accepting it.
I just wanted to understand it from another point of view though. I really hope that my topic hasnt offended anyone, because I have no intention of offending anyone. I realize this is a sensitive topic … and if anyone wants it to be closed … dont be afraid to tell me.
Not to sound short Kava Daba, but you have several differing points of view in this thread of 16 pgs.. If you don't understand it by now, then chances are, you won't. *shrugs*
Oh well. I guess I won't then. And, what do you mean by I have several differing points of view in this thread? I've asked questions about Islam, in this thread. And everyone has contributed their beliefs and views and points of views within the same 16 pages.
It's what Catholics call 'a mystery' as they look up at the ceiling. lmbo
Anyway, I started this topic and Im ending it now.
Thank you to those who addressed my questions.
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Yes yes, I know I know Ness … it really does boil down to the parties who must commit. I mean, they are the ones who are putting themselves into something … so obviously they must be ready/wanting/accepting it.
I just wanted to understand it from another point of view though. I really hope that my topic hasnt offended anyone, because I have no intention of offending anyone. I realize this is a sensitive topic … and if anyone wants it to be closed … dont be afraid to tell me.
Not to sound short Kava Daba, but you have several differing points of view in this thread of 16 pgs.. If you don't understand it by now, then chances are, you won't. *shrugs*
Oh well. I guess I won't then. And, what do you mean by I have several differing points of view in this thread? I've asked questions about Islam, in this thread. And everyone has contributed their beliefs and views and points of views within the same 16 pages.
It's what Catholics call 'a mystery' as they look up at the ceiling. lmbo
Anyway, I started this topic and Im ending it now.
Thank you to those who addressed my questions.
I sense anger/discomfort where none was needed. So, I'll explain further…
When I said 'you have', my actual meaning was 'there are'. As in, “There are/you have several differeing points of view…blah, blah, blah…” Not 'YOU' as in 'You, Kavita have differeing opinions…' I hope that clears my statement up for you.
My reply wasn't to insult you or your intelligence. It was to say that there are 16 pages of information and another thread. Facts & opinion have been shared. Verses from holy books have been quoted. It was all submitted with the goal of helping with our understanding. So then, if you aren't understanding it, chances are it is something that will remain a mystery to you. That was my meaning Kavita.
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I sense anger/discomfort where none was needed. So, I'll explain further…
When I said 'you have', my actual meaning was 'there are'. As in, “There are/you have several differeing points of view…blah, blah, blah…” Not 'YOU' as in 'You, Kavita have differeing opinions…' I hope that clears my statement up for you.
My reply wasn't to insult you or your intelligence. It was to say that there are 16 pages of information and another thread. Facts & opinion have been shared. Verses from holy books have been quoted. It was all submitted with the goal of helping with our understanding. So then, if you aren't understanding it, chances are it is something that will remain a mystery to you. That was my meaning Kavita.
Lmao – I really am a tubelight!! lol … nah, no anger/discomfort Ness!
I was just saying… I guess I got enough of the information I needed … and its a sensitive topic and I understand soooo …
Even before you said that, I had plan to ease it off with any questions
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lmbo…the magic of the internet.
No harm, no foul!
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Quote:Please keep your extra arguments (or whatever it is you want to call it) outside of this thread. Thank you.
Shut it, Firestarter!
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Careful with that tongue puppy!
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'He is under water diving, it's his work … he can't leave his job undone…but he can't lose the fajr….so he prayed underwater'
SubhanAllah !!!…Allah has given us the whole world as a place worship, so we can perform our salah! but y do we make silly excuses n miss our prayers?
My teacher from masjid forwarded this to me…
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Ninja, your pictures aren't showing up. I'll post them up from my computer and see if they work.
Subhan'Allah…
This video is so sad:
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I got this email as a forward and really liked it so decided to share with everyone.
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem…
Assalamu Alaykum,
A person came crying and weeping to Shaikh Shiblee Rahamatullahi alayh and said, ‘O Shaikh, I have destroyed myself; make du’aa for me that may Allah take me away from this world.’
People, whose relationship with Allah is strong, will never ever dream of committing suicide. Those people who enjoy the pleasures of this world; alcohol, drug, women, dubbing, etc., they are the people who will ultimately, want to commit suicide because they will get sick of this world. Those who enjoy the pleasures of this world by committing sins will be surrounded by problems from all four sides. They have brought these problems upon themselves through disobedience to Allah Ta’aalaa.Such people begin to feel they will only find peace, if they are dead. An Urdu poet has said: Now out of fear you desire to die (But) even after death, if you do not find peace, where will you go?
Now, overpowered by calamities and problems, you desire to die and you consider death a solution to all your problems, but if, after death, you do not find peace in the grave, if you do not find peace on the Day of Qiyaamah (Day of Judgement), if you do not find peace on the Pul Siraat (The Bridge that leads to Paradise) and you are deprived of entry in Jannah (Paradise), then where will you go?So the person said to Shaikh Shiblee, ‘I have a big problem. Make du’aa that may Allah Ta’aalaa take me away from this world.’
The Shaikh said, ‘Calm down, take it easy, what is the problem?’ He replied, ‘I had a very close friend, and I loved him very much. We were friends for a very long time. He sacrificed everything for me and I sacrificed everything for him. I had never thought that he will ever leave me but he has left me. Now my heart is empty. I cannot survive without him. I love him so much that I want him back, and if I cannot have him back, then I want to die.’
The Shaikh soothed him and asked him to calm down saying, ‘Look, there is no need to lose hope. Why do you want to die when there is a solution to your problem?’
He quickly said, very happily, ‘Tell me what is the solution, tell me quickly! Since he has left me I have not been eating, drinking or sleeping. There is no joy in my life. Please tell me quickly.’
The Shaikh replied, ‘The only way to forget a friend who has left you is to make a new friend.’ He said, ‘O Shaikh, after ten to fifteen years of loyal friendship, he has left me and I am suffering. And you are telling me to make a new friend. I fear that if the same thing happens, then what will become of me.’
Shaikh Shiblee said, ‘What if I find you a friend who will never leave you. In fact, if you are disloyal to him and after years of disloyalty, you go back to him saying O my friend! Forgive me. I want to be your friend again, he will immediately accept you again as a friend.’ He said, ‘O Shaikh! Show me this friend! Who is this friend that is so loyal.’
The Shaikh replied, ‘Turn to Allah and make friendship with Him.’
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Asalamualaykum!
whaaaasuppp Im new to this forum so you better recognizee, hhahaha I thought this was a very interesting post, so many facts, and not a lot of room for doubts, But sometimes you cant just believe everything you read, even if it has cool pictures, not to mension outstanding formating hahaha, at least thats what hapened to me, I recieved all the proofs scientific facts and pictures and the whole thing, but me being an aitheist (at that time) couldnt really believe…
What did it to me was the pesonal sign that Allah gave to me, I think Boo should just talk to Allah and ask for some type of sign too. Allah may just give one to her, I mean, he already gave one to her( this SUPER AWSOME THREAD!!!! with cool pictures and all!!!!!lol) but I think boo just like myself needs to get some type of personal reasurance. So just talk to the big guy pesonally Boo!!! cut the middle man you know?? hahahaha
Orrr you can just look at this freaking post!!!! ahaha jk! Im getting all bossy now
Just dont stess and have fun with it you know? talk to Allah hell answeer! GO TO THE LIGHT!!!!
FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW ME IM CRAZY LIKE THAT OK SO DONT MIND ME LOL!
I hope you embrace islam just like I did. Great Post! and Ill read you people soon!!!The HobecK
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Quote:Asalamualaykum!
whaaaasuppp Im new to this forum so you better recognizee, hhahaha I thought this was a very interesting post, so many facts, and not a lot of room for doubts, But sometimes you cant just believe everything you read, even if it has cool pictures, not to mension outstanding formating hahaha, at least thats what hapened to me, I recieved all the proofs scientific facts and pictures and the whole thing, but me being an aitheist (at that time) couldnt really believe…
What did it to me was the pesonal sign that Allah gave to me, I think Boo should just talk to Allah and ask for some type of sign too. Allah may just give one to her, I mean, he already gave one to her( this SUPER AWSOME THREAD!!!! with cool pictures and all!!!!!lol) but I think boo just like myself needs to get some type of personal reasurance. So just talk to the big guy pesonally Boo!!! cut the middle man you know?? hahahaha
Orrr you can just look at this freaking post!!!! ahaha jk! Im getting all bossy now
Just dont stess and have fun with it you know? talk to Allah hell answeer! GO TO THE LIGHT!!!!
FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW ME IM CRAZY LIKE THAT OK SO DONT MIND ME LOL!
I hope you embrace islam just like I did. Great Post! and Ill read you people soon!!!The HobecK
Walaykum Assalaam!
Ameen to your dua!
I agree with Hobeck here. Faith is in the unseen. I know it's hard to believe what people say, even if it does have so many scientific facts and all that jazz, because sometimes we DO need to cut the middle man and just turn to our own hearts and sit alone and sincerely speak to God. Just speak to Him, ask Him for some kind of sign, some kind of direction, some kind of guide. Speak to Him for as long as necessary, and wait for the sign for as long as necessary.
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I think all the beliefs represent the same thing. We can believe in whichever God we chose, they're all the same.
We just need to accept everyone and their beliefs
Then we can finally live in peace
I agree: No matter which name you choose, there IS only ONE God.
Muslims do not use the word “God” because you can add to it and change it and make it something it isn't.
God – alone, it is masculine – God is neither male or female
Gods – This is plural. there is no such thing as godS, there is only ONE God.
Goddess – This is feminine – God is neither male or female.
Godparents (Godmother/Godfather) – What does that even mean? People make up the strangest things!
Godchildren (Goddaughter/Godson) – What does that even mean? People make up the strangest things! And there are probably more additions that I don't know of or can't remember right now.
Muslims use “Allah” because it is so unique. It cannot be changed, it cannot be made plural, you cannot add to it, it is neither masculine nor feminine and nor can it be MADE feminine or masculine.
We can accept that everyone is not going to believe in our beliefs, but there is nothing wrong in giving people the proofs they asked for, that's all I'm doing Kavita.
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My practising Muslim friend told me that music is forbidden in some 'sects' of Islam – could anyone explain/elaborate?
He said something about it disrupting the soul or something. I cannot remember very much, cos it confused me and I just glanced over what he'd written.
lolThank you
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Boo, first I want to clear up that Islamically, there are no sects in Islam. The sects that your friend was talking about is man-made.
Your friend is right, though. Music is forbidden in Islam. I actually can't say much about that because I don't really understand it and I'm not really aware of the reasons for it being forbidden. Actually, I do understand it and I am aware of the reasons in my own way, but not enough to be able to explain it to you properly. I'm sorry. InshaAllah I will ask and look it up for you, though.
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Qawwalis are just cultural, I believe. And sufism is a man made sect. There is no place in Islam for such sects and divisions.
“Hold fast the rope (Islam) of Allah all together, and be not divided.” (Qur'an: 3:103)
There are songs, called Nasheed in Arabic, which are allowed. These Nasheeds have no music in them, no instruments. The instruments are what is not allowed. There is one instrument that is allowed, the Daf in Arabic, and Dafli in hindi, I believe.
Here are some Nasheeds:
Allah Knows (So beautiful) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjIsSdsT6A
Our World (I love this one) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplGPY8crSg&feature=related
Have you heard? (I love this one) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kjr_b4aAQk&feature=related
Give Thanks To Allah – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEMDKzDFQI&feature=related
Faith – Allahu – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq3EN1S6p1E&feature=related
This next one has an instrument in it, just the Daf. If I'm not getting that wrong, I don't know much about instruments and I can't differentiate between them. But I'm pretty sure this one only has the Daf.
My Mum Is Amazing (So beautiful) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKndnaiFzo&feature=related
And this next one starts off fine, but the music starts somwhere in the middle. – That music isn't allowed.
Your Mother (This is SO CUTE) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flwUWJlCnHQ&feature=related
Sorry, too many examples. lol But I hope I've answered your question?
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I think all the beliefs represent the same thing. We can believe in whichever God we chose, they're all the same.
We just need to accept everyone and their beliefs
Then we can finally live in peace
I agree: No matter which name you choose, there IS only ONE God.
Muslims do not use the word “God” because you can add to it and change it and make it something it isn't.
God – alone, it is masculine – God is neither male or female
Gods – This is plural. there is no such thing as godS, there is only ONE God.
Goddess – This is feminine – God is neither male or female.
Godparents (Godmother/Godfather) – What does that even mean? People make up the strangest things!
Godchildren (Goddaughter/Godson) – What does that even mean? People make up the strangest things! And there are probably more additions that I don't know of or can't remember right now.
Muslims use “Allah” because it is so unique. It cannot be changed, it cannot be made plural, you cannot add to it, it is neither masculine nor feminine and nor can it be MADE feminine or masculine.
We can accept that everyone is not going to believe in our beliefs, but there is nothing wrong in giving people the proofs they asked for, that's all I'm doing Kavita.
Lol, Rani, you made me chuckle by reading this (the last part).
It is never wrong to share proofs and evidence to people to make them believe.
Believing and having faith in our lives can turn our whole world around. And the thing is, sometimes there is basically no real proof and evidence, but many of us, a large part of the world, believe that there is a God. We're made to be like that. Think of how much people out there believe in God, yet they have seen no 'real evidence/proof'.
If an informed person has found some evidence/proof, then it will only help us all to believe even more. And the powerful thing is, sometimes people dont even believe the 'evidences/proofs' and they may even take them to be fakes or coincidences, and yet these people still believe in God and know that He exists. Dont you think that's amazing?
I agree with you, 'Allah' is unique. 'Jehova' is also unique. I dont know much about Jehova witnesses, but the place where I grew up, there were many of them there.
There is only one God. Whichever faith you are following, ultimately there is one God, one Supreme being. Surely, if God has created this universe, He is in everything. His form is many. Dont you think he is in everything? The trees, the rivers, the waters, in females, in males, in animals ? We are all made by Him.
I guess what I was trying to say earlier is that I wish we can all just accept each other. No one has to change their beliefs. That makes absolutely no sense, because God is one. I j
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