Yemenilicious:Boo,
I do respect your views. But, As a Muslim speaking on behalf of my
other brothers and sisters in Islam, I think Religion is a very beautiful
and important thing. without that belief in God, then whats the point of
life. God brought us into this world so that we would live, worship, love,
be loved and so forth. We do have ourselves and our strengths, but all that
came from God. I honestly think that I wouldn't be able to live a day
without waking up and praising my Lord for being alive, for having the
opportunity to praise him and live life with that aim for paradise. I think
Muslims in particular, just can't do that. Because Islam is not just religion, its a way of life. Everything that it teaches is the perfect way
to live. If we follow what it says, we'd never ever have to go to sleep
feeling guilty. We'd learn to love everything around us. I also believe that
no one could ever be their own boss. I mean, when I look at myself from a
non-religious point of view, I'd never find a wrong in myself. No one
realizes their own mistakes if they dont have rules to follow. Religion is
indeed freedom. It's a beautiful way of life. I say this with much respect
and im also just writing my honest views and beliefs with no intention to
hurt anyone at all.take care
bye!
Such gratitude… I enjoyed reading yours too, yemenilicious.
~Khushi~:See I think the notion of religion being a debatable issue which somewhat 'clashes' with atheism when It says “thou shalt not” in its literal form i.e. the Bible etc. I mean, religion is dedication. Dedication is only dedication when carried out with passion, will, belief in/on it. But I think the way its preached is causing the problems in the way it is perceived by society, especially the modern world where technology has overpowered our vision. What I mean by dedication… for example, If an artist is not appreciated by society and people, told that he is useless. Does that mean he should stop following his passion? Can religion not be a passion? Passion is free, but it has rules which are personalised. Why cant rules in religion be personalized, but yet not abuse the very existence of religion? I mean, I am a Hindu but I dont believe in neither the 'cast' system, nor the 'untouchables' and (…this one might make the boys cringe, but i really disagree with it) not being able to go to temple just because women go through menstruation and so arent 'clean'. This are issues created by authoritative figures which have nothing to do with religion. I think most of these sort of rules preach prejudice. Which religion says love is wrong? NONE. Which religion says loving someone who is of a different religion/race or even nationality/breed is wrong? MOST. Why? Which case is religion standing for here? Love or Division? God definitely never in any form denied humans to loving someone of a different existence what so ever. If he’s created people of a different colour, faith or “background” and has also created free love, then whats the problem? Again the preaching.
Religion and God for me are two different things. I have 100% faith in God. Why, you might ask. Because I cannot ignore the fact that the sun rises every morning and sets every evening. A child is born everyday, a life is created every day and a life leaves everyday. How can such HUGE issues are stated as ‘by chance’ by some people, I don’t know. Again, as boo said this is an open discussion not aimed to hurt anyone. Religion is the WAY a GROUP of people wish to contact God. Some people do it via meditation. Group prayers are thought by some as powerful and moving, to themselves. But neither has superior than each other. Therefore, no religion is superior either. You can connect with God in which ever way possible.
I see and feel God in nature. And in its beauty I see his vision and his love. [the usual usage of most religions to see God as a ‘he’ is something much easier to say in English. By no means do I think God has a gender. He/She/ Divine is fine with me]
Yes things go wrong, yes people die, yes innocent lives are lost – but who are you to judge that all of this has no meaning? On what basis can you blame God for this when your vision is only in the
boo:Would you believe me if I said I understand where you’re coming from Oreo ji… I really do. I was the same when making the transition from religion to atheism, I blamed God for all the bad happenings in the world. Now I realise what a stupid argument that is… there is more to my atheism than just ‘Why would God do this to us?’ But there are some points I must stress…
As an atheist, i.e. NOW (if you remember, I used to have a religion – two in fact), I don’t blame God for everything that goes wrong. I blame it on human folly, and circumstances instead no, jokes aside, I don’t blame religion or God. Because neither exist in my eyes, although when people say that God metaphorically exists in their hearts, I have no words to say back to them. Because there is one argument I can never argue against, what’s in your heart is in your heart, and no amount of rational thinking can take it out of your heart.
Hi boo, I've a question for you.. I'm just curious..
You said you had two religions, I guess at the same time right? where you are in between both?
Then what made you refuse those two religions, and then make the transition to atheism?
Does that mean at the same time, you refused God too?
I guess that will make it two qns..
Boo, thanks for the welcome. It is no fuss or hassle.
Only that, honest opinions do not mean to use 'inappropriate' words that may be perceived as quite 'impolite'.
But glad to see you've edited it to avoid any misinterpretation.
I have to agree with whatever seriocomic says.
vchenoah:Healthy discussion is good for the mind.
Just be cautious with phraseology. It isn't wise calling someone who believes in God or a god a 'fool' and vice versa.
Exactly my thought.. If healthy, ppl shouldn't be called or classified as 'fool' or 'sheep'.
do correct my translation if anybody spot any mistakes, will appreciate it..
So jaaoon main
(I'll go to sleep)
Tum agar mere khwaabon mein aaon
(If you'll come into my dreams)
Mere khwaabon mein aaon
(Come into my dreams)
Kho jaaoon main
(I'll get lost)
Tum agar meri yaadon mein aaon
(If you'll come in my memories)
Meri yaadon mein aaon
(Come in my memories)
Jaagi nazar mein soyi nazar mein
(In awakened eyes, in sleeping eyes)
Har pal sanam tum jhilmilaaon
(You'll always sparkle every moment, dear)
So jaaoon main
(I'll go to sleep)
Tum agar mere khwaabon mein aaon
(If you'll come into my dreams)
mere khwaabon mein aaon
(Come into my dreams)
kho jaaoon main
(I'll get lost)
Tum agar meri yaadon mein aaon
(If you'll come into my memories)
meri yaadon mein aaon
(Come into my memories)
meri khushi mein shaamil raho tum
(May you always be embedded in my happiness)
iss zindagi mein shaamil raho tum
(May you always be connected with this life)
yun toh hai laakhon armaan dil mein
(Such are the thousands of desires in my heart)
mehfil mein jaan-e-mehfil raho tum
(May you always be the life in the crowd)
hothon se mere shaam savere
yun hi sanam tum muskuraaon
(You should smile like my lips night and day)
so jaaoon main
tum agar mere khwaabon mein aaon
mere khwaabon mein aaon
kho jaaoon main
tum agar meri yaadon mein aaon
meri yaadon mein aaon
banke sitara aankhon mein chamko
(Be the stars that twinkle in my eyes)
in aati jaati saanson mein mehko
Be the fragrance that comes and goes in these breaths)
bas jaaon aake tum meri jaan mein
(Come and enter my life)
dil banke mere seene mein dhadko
(Be the heart that beats in my chest)
tum mujhko chaho baas mujhko chaho
(Love me, love me only)
saare jahaan ko bhul jaaon
(Forget the whole world)
so jaaoon main
(I'll go to sleep)
tum agar mere khwaabon mein aaon
(If you'll come into my dreams)
mere khwaabon mein aaon
kho jaaoon main
(I'll get lost)
tum agar meri yaadon mein aaon
(If you'll come into my thoughts)
meri yaadon mein aaon
jaagi nazar mein soyi nazar mein
har pal sanam tum jhilmilaaon
(May you sparkle every moment, dear,
in my awakened eyes, in my sleeping eyes)
so jaaoon main
tum agar mere khwaabon mein aaon
mere khwaabon mein aaon
kho jaaoon main
tum agar meri yaadon mein aaon
meri yaadon mein aaon