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me too. i really am… will we be hearing any of your thoughts on this thread Ma'am?

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there… edited… a lot more concise and still honest…

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Maizara: first of all, welcome to the forum!

It is not my fault I see people who do such things as sheep… not EVERYONE who is religious is a 'sheep', perhaps I wasn't too clear on that (and I apologise) but those who blindly do so without questioning seem like sheep to me.

And as for the fool, since it seems to be causing such hassles, i shall go and rephrase what i said… what i said made sense to me, and it was wrong of me to assume it would make sense to everyone else, too…

these are simply my honest, blunt, bare thoughts… but i will edit if it causes too much fuss.

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vchenoah:

Healthy discussion is good for the mind.

Just be cautious with phraseology. It isn't wise calling someone who believes in God or a god a 'fool' and vice versa.

Point noted. But as i said, these are my honest opinions…

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Shakalaka Baby:

Boo… now you're talking about love in a friendship way, I was talking about love in a really true love way… Of course some other guy can have a special place in my heart, but I will never tell that person I love him… I will tell him he's a great friend and so on, but the only person I say “I love you” to, is the one I'm together with… In my case my b/f… I can not really love two persons and be together with one…

would you do so with a girl? why should it be any different if it is a guy? isn't love the one and same thing?

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Shakalaka Baby:

And Serio, sometimes there are no answers to find… It's just that talking about serious stuff with other people will make you think more and let you look deep in your soul… You'll find yourself, but no answers…

wah wah wah… kya baat hai…

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serioComic:

deep discussion this is. treat it cautiously u must. different thinking everyone is. to each its own i say.

seek the truth u shall. find the answers u will.

i don't think it is possible to find the answers to questions as big as these…

to each its own i say. – why of course… but there is nothing wrong with healthy discussion, is there? (healthy? jeezums i sound 90!!)

i doubt anything people say here will make other people change their minds… people will always think they're right and the other is wrong… lol

this is just argument for argument's sake… so we can see new ideas and grow with them…

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person above me… helped create a great surprise for me last weekend!

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ahaaaaa unique ji… that is nowhere near as bad as my insomnia… but heck i LOVE my insomnia… it's my heaven… lol.

once i went to bed at 7:30 a.m. watching a movie and a whole load of other videos on Google Video… lol, i had just discovered Google Video then… and my Bollyholism and Insomnia ganged up on my sleep… lol.

and another time i went to bed at 5:30 am and woke up at 7:40 a.m….. and crazily enough, i survided the day. only, i was fast asleep later at a friend's place LOL!!

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person above me… sighhh… yes that thread i started… *rolls eyes*… but really… i like to think I'm a complete romantic at heart, whether i am or not, will vary from person to person…

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person above me… me too! although you must be starting to doubt my idea of romance after the 'Can Love fail?' thread… lol

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as i said ShakB… love can't be defined… therefore I will have no problem telling one guy that i love another guy… because anyone who knows me will know exactly what i mean by love… and love does not have to end up with me in bed with a guy, simply because i love him… love goes beyond that…

i need someone crazy like me lol… who can accept that they may not be the only guy i love, but who will know that my love can be crazily beautiful… and i would never do anything to break the trust within my control/whatever…

if your b/f were to tell you that he loves another girl too, what would you do shakB? if he can love you with so much intensity and yet find it in himself to say “i love you” to another girl too… what would you do?

see, THIS is why love cant be defined…!

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But there is no actual proof of God… and when people say that God is in their hearts, I simply cannot argue with that. Because feelings are crazy, illogical… they need neither rhyme nor reason to just… be. And if they want to keep ‘God’ in them, then they can do so… but what irks me is RELIGION. The idea of RELIGION itself… the idea that some individuals can create rules for other people to follow, and the ‘society’ following them. I don’t see anything ‘true’ (for want of a better word? ‘Pure’? I don’t know… I hope you get what I mean…) in that…Examples? The simple, pointless things… the ones that have nothing to do with ‘God’, but are simply the s h i t of society that people are expected to carry around with them… the idea of no s e x before marriage, for instance… . These have NOTHING whatsoever to do with having someone out there to look for for guidance and support (this being ‘God’, of course). THIS is what I am against.

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Am Rani:

Example: My best friend used to have a boyfriend, years ago. We were pretty young, but she really love him at that moment, so she decide to sleep with him. After a long time, the relationship ended..

In most religions, she's “damned”. if she wants to become christian (she's an atheist as well),she should feel sorry for what she did, and she should suffer from that for th rest of her life and beyond.

But at the moment she really loved that boy, she only loved him, and the relationship felt right. Who is God than to say she did something wrong?? It's up to her to decide if she has to feel sorry about it or not. She has to face herself, and if she's ok with herself, than it's fine.

wow… you have said something which I did not post up in this thread… I am going to post it now… let me know what you think about it…

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~Khushi~:

No. Love doesn't fail, you do.

You don't know how much you made me smile with that first clause of yours missy… really… it was a simple smile, but it held a lot of meaning to it…

You put it so succintly, so simply… you echoed the little voice in my head…

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~Khushi~:

Love, cannot be defined. If tht cannot be defined then anything related to it cnnot be put on any basis. Sorry guys, at the moment wont be able to expand on this but will love to, later.

GMTA my darling, GMTA…

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I don't believe in defining love. Not one single bit. Nope. Not at all.

Love is the most beautiful feeling of all – its beauty lies in the fact that it is so simple, yet it can fill up a lifetime in seconds. It is one of the few things (if not the only thing?) that you can feel, and truly feel…

I don't like to define relationships, either. People are what they are to you, and trying to fit them into a name or a category is just so… fake. So shallow and heartless and shows no love whatsoever. Be it a relationship with a friend or a family member or a lover ()… love is what it is.

If you love someone, you love them. And that is all there is to it.

If I find a guy I love, with all my heart, I will let him know so. At the same time, if I find ANOTHER guy whom I love with all my heart, I will let him know so too.

Whether I am being 'unfaithful', or a 'player', or whether I am confused as to whom I see as a friend and whom I see as a lover – all this means nothing to me.

There is no reason whatsoever why I should not be free to love whom I please, when I please… why should we be bound down by 'rules' of 'society'?

At the same time, lol, I want to clarify that I never have been a player, and never will be a player (well, in all honesty, who knows what the future holds… but as far as 'now' is concerned…)… I will know where my priorities lie… I know my heart will guide me.

I just don't want to bring politics and fixed notions about what love should be, into love.

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Am Rani:

I don't mean fail in the meaning of stealing or some other illegal things. What I mean is, people fail if they hurt you so much, it can never be made right…

I didn't mean it in the sense of stealing or some other illegal things either.

Why do people fail if they hurt you so much? Why do you say it as though it is a test? I'm not sure that I agree with that… I don't know. It's ust the idea of 'fail' being used as an idea for what has happened to the people that is… well it seems too… um. Can't find the word ji! lol.

If people hurt you so much, then it can only be because you gave them your heart, right?

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… but when love brings you more pain than pleasure, is really 'love' doing so? Maybe it's the person you love, maybe it's the situation… there are so many other things involved in a relationship between two people apart from love… maybe it's the other factors that are affecting love…

how can you differentiate between the other factors and love, to say that love has failed because it is giving you more pain than pleasure?

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Am Rani:

Or the one you love/loved fails/failed… But if the person you love fails, can you see that seperate from the love you had? And then I mean, when he fails because he hurt you really very bad. I do think you can love someone who is bad to other people..

How do PEOPLE fail? Care to expand ji?

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